Comments on: Let the SBS 2008 Bashing Begin http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2008/06/01/let-the-sbs-2008-bashing-begin/ Bitzie I started bloggin just for you, http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:50:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: HandyAndy http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2008/06/01/let-the-sbs-2008-bashing-begin/#comment-559 HandyAndy Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:18:01 +0000 http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/?p=161#comment-559 Thankx for the clarity Samantha, as well as being a very happy OWN Partner, I am the king of misunderstanding. I'll tell Vlad you deserve a raise for watching his back so closely :>) Thankx for the clarity Samantha, as well as being a very happy OWN Partner, I am the king of misunderstanding.

I’ll tell Vlad you deserve a raise for watching his back so closely :>)

]]> By: harry brelsford http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2008/06/01/let-the-sbs-2008-bashing-begin/#comment-558 harry brelsford Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:24:11 +0000 http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/?p=161#comment-558 Andy - do u want to contact me and write this up as an OP-ED\sidebar for the next magazine. I am starting to close out June\July right now and your insights would be great. Contact me offline...thanks...harrybbbb Andy - do u want to contact me and write this up as an OP-ED\sidebar for the next magazine. I am starting to close out June\July right now and your insights would be great. Contact me offline…thanks…harrybbbb

]]> By: Samantha Ellison http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2008/06/01/let-the-sbs-2008-bashing-begin/#comment-557 Samantha Ellison Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:32:30 +0000 http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/?p=161#comment-557 No comment on Vlad :) As far as OWN is concerned SBS is not conflicting with our business model and Vlad has been one of the most outspoken promoters of SBS over the years. Quite the contrary, SBS is a huge part of our business model and OWN is probably the largest site deployment of SBS and easilly the largest provider of virtual SBS solutions out there. Have been for years. We are simply responding to the market demand and market is not demanding SBS or EBS solutions. It costs us a lot to train our staff on multiple solutions and combined with the complexity of migration and SBS scalability limitations we chose not to support it as widely as we have SBS 2003. If the customers are not demanding it and we do not see it as a profitable venture what possible reason would we have to wait for it till it is released in order to make an announcement? We are just giving our partners a heads up, you being one of them (the best!), on what we are seeing and where we are going because thats just the kind of a company we run. You and I both know that servers are not impuse purchases and given the SBS launch date looming we need to draw the lines in the sand and help our partners and clients know where OWN stands as an organization. Samantha Ellison samantha@ownwebnow.com No comment on Vlad :)

As far as OWN is concerned SBS is not conflicting with our business model and Vlad has been one of the most outspoken promoters of SBS over the years. Quite the contrary, SBS is a huge part of our business model and OWN is probably the largest site deployment of SBS and easilly the largest provider of virtual SBS solutions out there. Have been for years.

We are simply responding to the market demand and market is not demanding SBS or EBS solutions. It costs us a lot to train our staff on multiple solutions and combined with the complexity of migration and SBS scalability limitations we chose not to support it as widely as we have SBS 2003. If the customers are not demanding it and we do not see it as a profitable venture what possible reason would we have to wait for it till it is released in order to make an announcement? We are just giving our partners a heads up, you being one of them (the best!), on what we are seeing and where we are going because thats just the kind of a company we run. You and I both know that servers are not impuse purchases and given the SBS launch date looming we need to draw the lines in the sand and help our partners and clients know where OWN stands as an organization.

Samantha Ellison
samantha@ownwebnow.com

]]> By: HandyAndy http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2008/06/01/let-the-sbs-2008-bashing-begin/#comment-556 HandyAndy Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:06:57 +0000 http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/?p=161#comment-556 Well Exchange 14 will most likely break something in SBS, that is one of the things about SBS, it is an integrated package and you can’t haphazardly upgrade individual components. As for CRM, personally I lost all respect/interest in them when they ditched the SBE version. They are not interested in our market, they would rather SMB clients used the hosted solution. And that is just not my business model. Well Exchange 14 will most likely break something in SBS, that is one of the things about SBS, it is an integrated package and you can’t haphazardly upgrade individual components.
As for CRM, personally I lost all respect/interest in them when they ditched the SBE version. They are not interested in our market, they would rather SMB clients used the hosted solution. And that is just not my business model.

]]> By: Vlad Mazek http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/2008/06/01/let-the-sbs-2008-bashing-begin/#comment-555 Vlad Mazek Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:48:49 +0000 http://blog.sbs-rocks.com/?p=161#comment-555 Hey now, I'm not bashing SBS 2008 by any means. It's an incredible product, decent bundle and the price is great. All I am reflecting at is that there is a change in the marketplace and the SBS 2008 offering is not as compelling as SBS 2003 was because of the many viable alternatives, the maturity of solutions that SBS used to demystify and the extensibility questions that are unanswered - when Exchange 14 comes out, can I upgrade without worrying that it will break everything, what about CRM, what about LOB app XYZ. It is a great product, it blows 2003 out the water but the world has changed since 2003 as well and solutions like SBS and EBS need to be held to a much higher standard because of it. That is not bashing.. -Vlad Hey now, I’m not bashing SBS 2008 by any means. It’s an incredible product, decent bundle and the price is great.

All I am reflecting at is that there is a change in the marketplace and the SBS 2008 offering is not as compelling as SBS 2003 was because of the many viable alternatives, the maturity of solutions that SBS used to demystify and the extensibility questions that are unanswered - when Exchange 14 comes out, can I upgrade without worrying that it will break everything, what about CRM, what about LOB app XYZ.

It is a great product, it blows 2003 out the water but the world has changed since 2003 as well and solutions like SBS and EBS need to be held to a much higher standard because of it.

That is not bashing..

-Vlad

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